This episode of Second Life is brought to you by the House of Chanel.

For Gabrielle Chanel, dance was always a natural fit,

reflecting the freedom of movement she introduced to the fashion world.

Dance was an opportunity,

that of meeting the flamboyant producer of the Balierus,

Sir Jagilif, becoming his friend, costume designer and patron,

of having her name associated with cocktail, Picasso and Stravinsky.

For Chanel today, dance remains the very essence of culture and elegance.

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Hi everyone! I'm Hilary Kerr and this is Second Life,

a podcast spotlighting women who have truly inspiring careers.

We're talking about their work journeys,

what they've learned from the process of setting aside their doubts or fears,

and what happens when they embark on their second life.

Today, I am delighted to have a little time with Kim Malik,

who has created a company that means a great deal to me personally.

Her brand, Salt and Stra, is the most incredible ice cream company,

and one that I have personally been following since their food cart days

back in Portland, Oregon in 2011.

Yes, I am an ice cream nerd.

Today, they're a much bigger business, which means nationwide shipping,

a slew of stores including Three in Washington,

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