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Kim Jong-Un's decade in power

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🗓️ 26 January 2022

⏱️ 32 minutes

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Summary

When Kim Jong-Un took over from his father as Supreme Leader of North Korea, many predicted he wouldn't last - and that the country would be changed forever, so how has he bucked all expectations?

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0:00.0

When the Tubby and Unprepossessing Kim Jong-un took over from his dead dad as leader

0:10.4

of North Korea 11 years ago, some commentators thought he'd last months, but he's still there

0:17.8

and so is his regime.

0:20.4

The place has not changed fundamentally, it's still a cruel dictatorship underwritten

0:26.8

by the constant threat of violence, but it is, in superficial ways, more fun than it used

0:33.5

to be.

0:34.5

A bit more fun, a lot more missile launches, and yet more international sanctions, aimed

0:41.0

at stopping Kim's bomb.

0:44.7

The simple question is, why would Kim Jong-un give up nuclear weapons?

0:50.0

It's hard to see what that reason would be.

0:53.1

He's the man with his finger on the big red button.

0:56.6

So what do we need to know about Kim III of North Korea?

1:01.3

You're listening to Stories of Our Times and The Times and The Sunday Times.

1:04.2

I'm David Ironevich.

1:05.2

Today, a decade of little rocket man.

1:18.6

By the kind of standards that modern Western states apply to themselves, and the way that

1:25.6

most societies measure success, North Korea is a grim, broken place and a desperate failure.

1:34.0

Richard Lloyd Perry is Asia editor for The Times.

1:37.6

He's been reporting on North Korea for 27 years and has visited the country a number of

1:42.9

times.

1:44.7

They can't feed themselves.

1:46.5

They are isolated.

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