to me, right now what we're going through,

that I feel like I have to put art out in the universe.

Artists have to, like, put the best art,

the best inspiration out in the universe right now.

From the TED Audio Collective,

this is Design Matters with Debbie Milman.

On Design Matters, Debbie talks with some of the most creative people in the world

about what they do, how they got to be who they are, and what they're thinking about, and

working on. On this episode, a conversation with Kim Hastrider about New York City, art, magazines, and about breaking the

internet.

No one ever heard a paper, and in 24 hours, everyone knew paper in the whole world.

Kim Hastrider is a creator and a connector of worlds, as well as an editor, curator, curator,

and catalyst who has spent more than four decades at the center of cultural emergence.

As the co-founder and longtime editor of Paper Magazine, she built one of the most influential platforms

documenting the intersection of art,

fashion, music, and nightlife in downtown New York and beyond. She's also worked with everyone

from Keith Herring to President Barack Obama, and her new book, Stuff, A New York Life of Cultural

Chaos,

tells the story of her life through the objects and people she has encountered and gathered along the way.

Kim Hastert, welcome to Design Matters.

Thank you. I'm so excited to be here.

Kim, I understand that you identify as both a loudmouth and a snob.

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