Killers of the Flower Moon: Osage Chief Jim Gray In Conversation
Cautionary Tales with Tim Harford
Pushkin Industries
4.7 • 6.4K Ratings
🗓️ 27 October 2023
⏱️ 39 minutes
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Summary
Henry Roan has been shot through the back of his head. The local authorities have found his body slumped over the steering wheel of his car. There's no gun at the scene: this is no suicide - it's brutal murder. And the man who ordered Henry Roan's killing? He claims to be his best friend...
Former Principal Chief of the Osage Nation Jim Roan Gray joins Tim Harford to speak about his great-grandfather Henry Roan. They also discuss the Osage Nation today and Jim's take on the new film Killers of the Flower Moon, directed by Martin Scorsese.
This episode of Cautionary Tales was produced in association with Apple Original Films. Killers of the Flower Moon stars William Belleau as Henry Roan, Robert DeNiro, Leonardo DiCaprio and Lily Gladstone.
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| 0:00.0 | This episode of cautionary tales is produced in association with Apple original films. |
| 0:17.0 | Their new movie, Killers of the Flower Moon, directed by Martin Scorsese, is now in theaters. |
| 0:25.0 | Osage County, Oklahoma, February 1923. |
| 0:31.0 | It's cold. Very cold. |
| 0:34.0 | The deputy sheriff and town marshal of Fairfax were on the lookout for an abandoned car. |
| 0:40.0 | When they see it, the bottom of a rocky valley, they walk down to investigate. |
| 0:46.0 | The driver is slumped over the steering wheel. Drunk thinks the deputy and he says as much. |
| 0:53.0 | But he's not drunk. He's dead. |
| 0:57.0 | The man's name is Henry Rohn. The school he was forced to go to made him cut his hair, |
| 1:03.0 | made him wear a suit, tried to beat his Osage identity out of him. |
| 1:07.0 | It was a terrible experience, but Henry Rohn had become rich thanks to his share of the lucrative headwrites, |
| 1:15.0 | the directed oil revenue to the small number of people recognized as members of the Osage Nation. |
| 1:21.0 | Now, he's been shot to the back of the head. |
| 1:26.0 | There's no gun at the scene. This is no suicide. It's murder. |
| 1:32.0 | And the man who ordered Henry Rohn to be killed is the man who claimed to be his best friend. |
| 1:39.0 | A man who would be a Paul bearer at Rohn's funeral. |
| 1:45.0 | This is a follow-up to our previous episode about the reign of terror, |
| 1:49.0 | which afflicted the Osage people in 1920s Oklahoma. |
| 1:54.0 | Members of the Osage were picked off to gain control of the oil, which lay under their land. |
| 2:01.0 | Others, such as Henry Rohn, were targeted as part of other equally dreadful schemes. |
| 2:08.0 | My telling of the story owed a great deal to David Gransburg, Killers of the Flower Moon, |
| 2:14.0 | and focused on what happened to a single family. |
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