Hi guys, Nancy Grace here. Welcome back to Killers Amongst Us, a production of I Heart Media

and Crime Online. You know, we go through life and we meet so many people along the way.

People you pick up and leave behind or you pick up and carry with you for a while and

it seems like it always ends and out as you go through life. And you really never know

who you're passing along the way. Who's life is going to intersect with yours and what

if any effect it may have? Well, the same thing here. Jody Areas and Travis Alexander's

lives intersect or should I say collided? Who would have ever suspected Killers Amongst

Us? I mean, it's you Grace. Thanks for being with us. With me is what a group of experts

Alexis Torres Chuck, crime online.com, investigative reporter also with leadstories.com, Joseph

Scott Morgan, professor, forensic, Jacksonville State University, author of Blood Beneath

My Feet on Amazon, star of poisonous liaisons on the tree crime network, death investigator,

Karen Stark, renowned psychologist, joining us out of New York. You can find her at

careinstart.com, Kirk Nirmy, legal commentator, cast member, radical body transformation, season

three, Amazon prime, and more importantly, in my mind, author of trapped with Miss Aries.

You can find them at KirkNirmy.com, special guest with me, a very dear friend of Travis

Alexander's Chris Hughes, inspirational speaker, author of an Amazon number one seller, our

friend Travis, the Travis Alexander story. You can find them on Insta at the real CS Hughes.

Guys, thank you for being with me. And before we go forward, I just want to pause a moment

and think about Travis Alexander and how he and Jody Areos have affected in some way

all of our lives. We left off with friends warning Travis Alexander that Jody Areos was

not as she seemed, but he was hooked. Or should I say they were hooked on each other?

It was like a drug. No matter how many times you warned him Chris, he would not break

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