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Back with the new episode of Killer Thriller.

This is our second part of my interview with Sarah Edmondson, where she talks about getting out of Nexium, the branding that they went through, and all of the work that she is doing today to help people escape cults and ideally never get involved with one.

How much do you think actually being a mom in the midst of this helped you get out of it?

Because you must have thought, oh my gosh, wait a second.

It definitely helped me. Having Troy,

and I know I'm jumping ahead a little bit in the timeline. I know. Sorry. That's my fault.

No, I'll try it. My fault. My fault. Paramedopause. I'll book him back to it.

Me too. Yay. Winning. I'll just talk about the supplements we're taking later.

Right, later. I'll just talk about the supplements we're taking later. Right, later.

But having him not only grounded me in reality and forced me to heal, like so many things,

I tell Troy that all the time, not to put too much pressure on him.

He's 11 now, but he was, you know, almost three at the time.

And he was such a gift.

But I do think that the last two years before I left, I had been, you know, focusing on him and my marriage.

And, you know, we were traveling a lot.

So we were also a bit stressed.

But I think ultimately in the growth of the strife path, which was the sort of backbone of an exeum, I was not growing.

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