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Killer Thriller with your host, Alisa Donovan.

Hey, everyone. Elisa Donovan here, and this is killer thriller.

Today, we are diving into a true crime story that was already wild.

And then it got the Hollywood treatment.

First, there were the headlines.

Joe Exotic, the so-called Tiger King, and a murder for higher plot targeting animal

rights activist Carol Baskin. Then came Joe v. Carroll, the series that tried to make sense of all

of it. But in the middle of that chaos was someone who wasn't chasing attention and wasn't

playing to the cameras. And that is John Ranky. He ran the

exotic animal zoo at the center of all of the chaos. And he saw firsthand how things went from

eccentric to something much darker. And the man who brought him to life in that series is Brian Van Holt.

Brian, thank you so much for being here today with me.

Oh, thank you for having me.

It's my, it's my pleasure.

I first got the email from my manager about the invite, and I assumed, based on the title

of the podcast, that it was going to have to do with my, you know,

for the movie I did, House of Wax.

Oh, well, listen, if that was, you know, based on something real, then we definitely,

we would talk about that too.

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