Killer Thriller: How a “Normal” Man Became the BTK Killer
Legally Brunette
iHeartPodcasts
4.8 • 1K Ratings
🗓️ 26 April 2026
⏱️ 37 minutes
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Summary
He had a family. A job. A role in his church. And for decades, no one suspected he could be the BTK killer.The story of The Hunt for the BTK Killer, is disturbing enough. But the psychology behind it is even more unsettling.Famed forensic psychologist Dr. Katherine Ramsland shares what she learned through her personal relationship with Dennis Rader: from the childhood patterns that shaped him, to the way he switched between personalities, to how he was able to live with what he’d done.
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| 0:00.0 | This is an I-Heart podcast. |
| 0:02.5 | Guaranteed human. |
| 0:10.6 | Amy Robock and T.J. Holmes present. |
| 0:13.5 | Killer Thriller with your host, Alisa Donovan. |
| 0:19.4 | Hey, everyone, Elisa Donovan here, and this is Killer Thriller. |
| 0:23.9 | What if the person committing some of the most horrific crimes imaginable was also living |
| 0:30.5 | what looked like a completely normal life? |
| 0:33.9 | Well, today we are talking about the BTK killer, short for bind, torture, kill, who terrorized |
| 0:41.3 | Wichita, Kansas for decades, murdering 10 people between 1974 and 1991 before going silent |
| 0:48.9 | and then reemerging years later in a way no one saw coming. |
| 0:53.8 | This is the story we see play out in the movie, |
| 0:56.3 | The Hunt for the BTK Killer. |
| 0:58.3 | And today we are going very deep because our guest didn't just study this case. |
| 1:05.5 | She had direct contact with the man behind it. |
| 1:09.2 | Forensic psychologist Catherine Ramsland corresponded with Dennis |
| 1:13.0 | Raider for years, gaining rare insight into his thinking and how he hid in plain sight. Dr. Ranselan, |
| 1:20.8 | thank you so much for being with me today. Great to be here. Looking forward to this. |
| 1:25.3 | I am really, first of all, I'm very much in awe of your career and what you have done with your life. |
| 1:32.6 | It's pretty extraordinary and impressive and fascinating to me. |
| 1:38.6 | So we're going to talk today, obviously, about the BTA killer. |
| 1:45.0 | So for people who may not know the full story, what makes the BTK case so uniquely disturbing? |
| 1:53.0 | Well, what's disturbing about someone like Dennis Raider who murdered people between |
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