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Killer Thriller with your host, Alisa Donovan.

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What if you came home one night to find your spouse brutally murdered and within days you were the one being accused of the crime?

Well, that's exactly what happened to Russ Ferrea.

A man who was wrongfully convicted, spent years in prison, and was later exonerated for killing his wife.

It all unfolds in The Thing About Pam, a series starring Renee Zellweger based on the real-life case.

And it is full of outrageous twists, shocking events, and ever-shifting narratives, and the real-life

case is still playing out in the courts. Today, we are joined by Glenn Fleshler, who plays the

role of Russ Ferrea. Glenn, thank you so much for being here today. I'm really excited to talk to you

about this show so first i

loved this series so very much and you're so wonderful in it as is everyone and um you know it's

such a unique kind of tone that sort of leans into the i think bizarre, bizarre and, you know, nature of the whole crime.

But before you were cast, did you know anything about it?

Did you, had you heard about Pam Hup or the case?

No, I knew not a thing about it.

Wow.

So you just read the script and went, wow, this isn't, is this real?

I don't remember what I read right away. I do remember that I got an audition and you know how sometimes, you know, you want to put your best foot forward.

And sometimes you just don't have time.

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