Killer Conversation: Sebastian Burns & Atif Rafay - Part 2

48 Hours

CBS News

True Crime, News, Tv & Film, Cbs

3.9 • 7K Ratings

🗓️ 25 June 2025

⏱️ 26 minutes

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What happened when Sebastian Burns and Atif Rafay left the U.S. for Canada and became entangled in an elaborate “Mr. Big” sting operation? 48 Hours correspondent Peter Van Sant explains how their undercover confessions led to their eventual murder convictions. Get early, ad-free access to episodes of Killer Conversation by subscribing to 48 Hours Plus on Apple Podcasts. The series is widely available everywhere else you get your podcasts. Subscribe to 48 Hours+: https://apple.co/4aEgENo To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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