Kill or Be Killed | 2
Kinahans Downfall
Nicola Bardon
4.8 • 641 Ratings
🗓️ 28 January 2026
⏱️ 49 minutes
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Summary
Episode 2 tells the story of hopeless drug addict Michael Carroll and his desperate bids to have his €40,000 Kinahan debt written off.
We hear how the criminal pursed innocent targets connected to the Hutch family- the Monk's innocent brother, Johnny Hutch, and family relative through marriage, Eddie Staunton.
He took extreme lengths to try and work off his debt.
And on the other side, we hear from Robert Cullen, a man who lived a chaotic life even before becoming a violent drug dealer for another criminal gang, not connected to the Kinahans.
He explains why a suicide attempt resulted in a brutal ultimatum from criminals to whom he owed €70,000 - was he willing to murder to wipe his slate clean?
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| 0:00.0 | In 2008, innocent Robert Delaney was shot in the head and the orders of a dissident Republican. |
| 0:07.0 | Why? Because he broke up a pub fight. |
| 0:10.0 | Today, brain damaged. He's neither living nor dead. |
| 0:14.0 | In a new three-part podcast by the Irish Sun, we examined a brutal crime, an insidious underworld, |
| 0:20.0 | and a family's fearless quest for justice. And we meet Robert Delaney. or his son. We examine the brutal crime, an insidious underworld, |
| 0:22.9 | and a family's fearless quest for justice. |
| 0:24.6 | And we meet Robert today. |
| 0:29.2 | This is Robert is available wherever you get your podcasts. |
| 0:33.4 | The following episode contains references to suicide, |
| 0:35.7 | which some listeners may find upsetting. |
| 0:41.0 | When the people I owed the money to, |
| 0:44.0 | they found out that I had tried to take me on life. |
| 0:46.8 | So they gave me a couple of options, right? They said that I could get the money, however I had to do it. |
| 0:51.6 | They said, I could kill myself, |
| 0:53.8 | and have I done that, they were going to kill my brother |
| 0:55.6 | or they asked me to participate in the murder |
| 1:00.1 | this is Kinnahans downfall |
| 1:02.8 | the sequel to the international hit podcast |
| 1:05.3 | The Kinnahans brought to you by the Irish son |
| 1:08.0 | I'm Damien Lane if you like what you hear please subscribe in your favourite podcast platform and give us a like. |
| 1:15.3 | It only takes a sec. |
| 1:16.7 | Thanks. |
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