Hey guys and welcome to episode 49 at the OCD stories.com podcast. Now in this

episode I have Dr Kiran O'Connor. Kiran is a British guy who moved to Montreal and Canada a couple decades ago and he's been

dedicated his life to the research and treatment of obsessive compulsive disorder as well as things like trichotillomania

BDDD body dysmorphic disorder and him and his team have come up with a type of therapy called inference-based therapy.

Now this is a form of cognitive therapy and they originally developed it

because they found that CBT wasn't working for some people and they wanted to help those

that it wasn't addressing and wasn't helping efficiently enough.

And inference-based therapy kind of looks at the reasoning behind

obsessional thinking and tries to kind of change it there.

Now this is quite different to anything we've really had in the

podcast before but I really liked it so Elvis Gomez who recommended Kiran to me and

Kiran's colleague Frederick so I wanted to get Kieran on the podcast to talk about this more.

It's definitely a learning area for me. I'm still quite sort of ignorant on the topic.

But, you know, their studies have done about 16 hour, but they

showed some promising results.

So as always, you know, I got him on the podcast not to replace any therapy you're doing not to replace

ERP because I still believe it's the gold standard but there's definitely definitely

a lot of information here that can you can add in to what you're doing

whether it's ERP Act CBT you can bring it in and you can bolt it on and make a

difference and make a stronger impact and maybe if you tried those other

therapies and they don't work for you, maybe this is a next area for you to try and see if it helps

you there. But I do like IBT Inferences-based therapy. I think it's going to come

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