From WNYC in New York, this is on the media. I'm Brooke Ladstone.

And I'm Bob Garfield.

Back in December, when we put together our Breaking News Consumer Handbook Election Polling Edition,

we warned against taking general election polls too seriously too early.

A quick rehash.

One, pay attention to which firm produced the poll. The five big ones that

determine eligibility for the upcoming debates, which include the CBS New York Times poll and Fox News.

Those employ live interviews and are therefore more reliable, but they're also less frequent. In their absence, news outlets

often draw upon automated and internet polls, which are much more likely to be untested,

historically inaccurate, and on occasion, fake. Look at a bunch of polls and outlets that aggregate

them because trends and averages matter most.

With the conventions a month behind us, those trends suggest that Donald Trump's incendiary

populism is increasingly unpopular.

As CNN's Breonna Keller recently pointed out to Trump organization lawyer Michael Cohen,

following the replacement of the campaign chief two and a half months before election day.

You say it's not a shake-up, but you guys are down, and it makes sense that there would polls.

Says who?

Most of them. All of them?

Says who? Polls. I All of them? Says who?

Poles.

I just told you, I answered your question.

Okay.

...