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🗓️ 11 December 2025
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| 0:00.0 | Now, I had quite the moments with former BBC executive Roger Bolton on air yesterday. |
| 0:08.0 | It just slipped out of my mouth that Secere Stama is a wicked liar. |
| 0:14.1 | Bolton wasn't happy. Take a listen. |
| 0:17.7 | He's a wicked liar. |
| 0:19.5 | Who are you talking about? |
| 0:20.5 | Secere Stama, the Prime Minister, is an outrageous liar. You called him a wicked liar. Who are you talking about? Secere Starma, the Prime Minister, is an outrageous liar. |
| 0:38.3 | You called him a wicked liar? Yes, I think it's wicked. I think it's egregious what he's done. He said that he would raise taxes by around £11 billion. He's raised them by almost 80. Hold on, hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Don't you think. by scrapping Rwanda, the boat's crisis is worse. |
| 0:39.5 | He's a wicked liar. |
| 0:55.0 | What I would suggest this happens here is that all of us, and you include it, but certainly Donald Trump, are using language in a way we wouldn't have before, which encourages people to think there's a conspiracy against them, as opposed to very difficult issues with all governments have to deal with. I'm not going to defend the Labour government, as I wouldn't defend the Conservative government before for its record. |
| 1:00.0 | But what I do think we need to do. |
| 1:02.0 | I agree with you on that. |
| 1:03.0 | More respectful of politicians and the difficulties they face. |
| 1:07.0 | We don't need to be that respectable of the United States President to use his language |
| 1:11.6 | in that way. So the BBC should make absolutely sure he reports accurately, should apologise |
| 1:16.6 | when it doesn't. But can we tone this down? We are in a dangerous situation for liberal democracy. |
| 1:22.6 | There is a real question about whether it's going to survive in the United States. |
| 1:26.6 | I would suggest that all of us |
| 1:28.1 | try and understand the problems and talk in reasonable language instead of using language like |
| 1:32.9 | wicked. Wicked is not mistaken, saying somebody's mistake. It's a moral judgment on a man who's a |
| 1:38.3 | proven liar. Well, I make no apologies for describing Sekeir Stama as a wicked liar because he is. |
| 1:48.4 | That manifesto before the election was the greatest work of fiction since war and peace. |
| 1:54.7 | It was a fraud on the British people and it contained more factual inaccuracies than a Gary Barlow tax return, |
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