It's the Brian Lera Show on WNYC. Good morning again, everyone. Now we'll continue our

observance of Pride Month with a second segment this month focusing on the medical care

offered to transgender children.

And as it happens, there is breaking news on this front just in the last few minutes.

Washington Post headline here, Supreme Court agrees to review Tennessee ban on gender transition care.

It says 23 states have passed bans or restrictions on gender transition

care for minors since 2021. And at least one of those bans, the one in Tennessee, which I think is

pretty sweeping, is going to go to the Supreme Court in the next term. Now, a few weeks ago,

some of you may remember we had Dr. Jack Turbin on the show.

He's director of the Gender Psychiatry Program, an assistant professor of child and

adolescent psychiatry at the University of California at San Francisco. He was talking about

his new book, Free to Be, Understanding Kids and Gender Identity. And during that segment,

we got deep into the weeds about what the inner lives are like for gender diverse children, including how they become aware of

their gender and at what early ages and how they internalize the politics surrounding their identity.

It was such a great conversation that time

ran out before we got onto a whole second half of it, which would have been about gender affirming

care itself. Dr. Turbin is back with us. We decided to invite him back for a round two,

and it comes just as this news is breaking, which I'm now told Dr. Turbin has

a personal professional relationship to. So Dr. Turbin, welcome back to WNYC.

Hi. Thanks for having me back. And are you an expert witness of some kind in this

Supreme Court case? Yes, for this case. What can you tell us? So I can tell you the same thing that I told

the trial court for this case, which is that all major medical organizations oppose these

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