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This is Recode Media with Peter Kafka. That is me. I'm talking to you from Vox Media headquarters in New York City.

Perry Chen is drinking coffee.

Perry, why don't you give me your title at Kickstarter? Sure. I'm founder and chairman. I served a CEO a couple of times, probably about for six years of our 10 years in total. You were most recently CEO until a couple weeks ago, I think. Yeah, I think maybe it's about a month at this point, but yeah. Yeah, and depending when you listen to this, you have, Kickstarter has just turned 10 years old. Yes, yes, very, I think exciting. I mean, it is exciting. It's also just, you know, 10 years is so long. It's hard to believe. It's a weird company because it is both a noun, right? and the same way that Kleenex or Xerox is a noun, everyone sort of knows what Kickstarter is,

even if they can't identify you or the company.

They know it's crowdfunding.

Also, weirdly, for a sort of well-known, well-established internet company, you guys are pretty quiet.

I'm not accused of throwing an election for Donald Trump or undermining democracy or being a haven

haven for Nazis or running weird misinformation campaigns. So congratulations on that.

More positively, you've generated, what, four plus billion for various projects?

Yeah, I think that sounds right. That's an astonishing number. Thank you. I mean, what's really interesting is a couple years ago there was an economic impact report

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