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Music Hey there, next fans. How you doing? It's your boy Jonathan Mac Macri, with you for another episode of the Nix Film School podcast.

We've been putting out some bangers recently. This is certainly another one.

I've been highly, highly anticipating having this conversation with this gentleman, not only because he is one of my favorite people working in media today, but because I don't know that there's a better authority on all things,

Carl Anthony Towns,

and for that matter,

Tom DeBito,

because he covered both of those guys for a very long time.

And it is John Krasinski of the Athletic.

If you like the NBA,

you have surely either read something by John or heard,

you know, John appear on a podcast or he was on ESPN recently. So we were really thrilled that he decided he could make the time for us and it was well worth the weight that we were trying

to find time for this for a little

while.

So, yeah, we talk all things trade, all things Carl Anthony Towns, and I'll just say at the top,

you know, I asked John at the beginning of the interview about a story that he had written

in the immediate aftermath of the Carl Anthony Town's Trade.

And I'll tell everybody now what I say when I'm talking to him,

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