In 2025, we saw the first glimpses of true AI agents.

In 2026, every company will be rushing to get them into production,

and they'll need companies like KeyCard to manage fleets of agents.

In this conversation, A16Z partner, Joel de Lagarza, sits down with Keycard co-founder and CEO Ian Livingston to discuss

the continuum from co-pilots to agents, the security realities of tool calling, why enterprises

will adopt before consumers, and how to control your agents. Let's get into it.

So it's shaping up to be that we're at the beginning of what sounds like the start of the year of the agents.

2026, it seems like every company we talk to is definitely looking to get some sort of an agent into production,

not just in the lab, to get them out into customers' hands and to start having them use it.

And so I'd like to share a story.

I guess we could kick this off.

And thank you so much to you, Ian, for joining us on our podcast to discuss this.

You know, we actually, or I was actually privy to hearing about probably the first security

incident I've ever heard about with an agent. And as a security person, you know, we constantly

harp on people to be

very explicit on what is the problem you solve. And the problems in security are often manifested

in security events. And so we were talking to a company or heard about a company, a relatively large

company that has a SaaS service that implemented an agent. They wanted to give a prompt to their users

to query data that was in the system. Very common use case. You've probably seen several of them

roll out recently. And this agent would essentially return data for your firm. So you could say,

hey, I'd like to know about this specific part of our business.

Could you tell us more about it? And it would give you an answer that would provide you with your

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