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Welcome to another episode of Surviving the Survivor, the podcast that promises to bring you the very best guess in all of true crime coming to you live tonight from the Law Office of Janssen and Davis in Tallahassee, Florida.

If you saw how we threw this together in the last moment, you would not believe it.

Magically, we are appearing on your YouTube screen unable to reach the comments of the

COE back in a global headquarters in Miami will be handling all of that.

For those who do not know the man to my right you saw him all day you must of that

for those who do not know the man to my right you saw him all day you must be living on under a rock if you don't know him Tim Jansen

fame Tallahassee defense attorney turning into a media superstar and here he is. I can't even read that comment so I'm

gonna have to go closer. Tim is a freaking rock star he was amazing today as always. Wow I'm getting old I have to

squint getting up there. To my right in this lovely hot pink jacket Kathy Monkman-Tiggum.

Did I say it right?

Hi, I'm I'm, I'm, hi.

Hi.

And we'll tell you about Kathy in just one moment and off camera because she's always anonymous.

The Ebervesant, Ebullient, Fancy Fiction, who yelled at me today just like my mom made me feel good.

Here he is ruining the shot. Steve Cohen also off camera. Have a seat Steve after I spent all the time setting this up.

So let's get serious for a moment.

A really wild day we came up, Meave Moan and I

all the way from Miami, seven and a half hour drive with him

was, I don't know, I might have preferred to been in

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