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What is going on, everybody?

Welcome in to an all new episode of the Packaday podcast. I'm your host,

Andy Herman. You can follow me on X at Andy Herman NFL. You can follow the podcast at Packetay

podcast. Great show lined up for you today. We're going to primarily be talking about Brian

Gutikins and his press conference and some of the key takeaways from that. Before we get there,

one, a spoiler.

I wanted to let you know that I am going to be doing dual episodes today.

I did want to chime in on the T. Higgins conversation.

I figured rather than doing one huge podcast today, I'll split them up into two,

and we'll see how it does and try a little bit different today.

So keep an eye out for that T. Higgins podcast as well. But today, again, we're

going to be talking about the Brian Gutikins Press Conference and all the key takeaways from that

as our primary topic on this episode. Before we do get there, though, I wanted to start off with

the passing of Cherry Star. I've never had the opportunity to meet Cherry. Obviously,

so much of the Star's impact was prior to my time. She was considered by

many to be the first lady of the Green Bay Packers, had a massive impact on the Packers organization,

had a massive impact within the Green Bay community. And I know she meant a lot to a lot of people.

Only interaction, not interaction, but the only time I really ever even had anything close to

an interaction with Cherry Star is I was sitting in about the third row and she, you know,

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