Welcome to the Global Phenomenon, Surviving the Survivor, where we bring you the best guests in all of true crime.

Here's your host, Emmy Award-winning journalist Joel Waldman.

And what's up, Pest yes Nation, and welcome to another episode of Surviving the Survivor,

the podcast that promises to bring you the very best guess in all of true crime and what better place to come to you from today

than my home state of New Jersey and the Great Carm's temporary bedroom while we are here.

This is why I love podcasting so much.

It's a personal relationship. This is my sister's estate, but I estate, but I like to

refer to this as STS headquarters north up here in the Garden State and I bet a lot of you did not expect to see me because I told you I wasn't

podcasting this week's I'm on the book tour but then I could not resist so I made it a point to come on

tonight and we will be doing a couple of impromptu lives the rest of the week

from the book tour Dragon

Carm to Fox News tomorrow at Jonna's home there

to do some media and then we are going to be PIX, the oldest station in New York City on Wednesday

before we head up to Boston.

Very happy to hear that Peter Ellicon, who I'm about to introduce, is going to be able to make the Boston book signing.

But great to see everybody here.

We're a couple of days.

I told everybody about this on Friday but I had an unexpected death so I was paying respects today and everyone just keep in mind how fragile life is.

I took a moment today here in the Garden State.

We don't see these in Florida that much.

Three little deer eating the leaves off a tree

and I took time to watch them.

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