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Zac Jackson and Friends

Kevin Stefanski Is Out. Andrew Berry...Is Staying?

Zac Jackson and Friends

Blue Wire

Sports

4.7686 Ratings

🗓️ 5 January 2026

⏱️ 12 minutes

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Zac Jackson offers a quick reaction podcast following the Cleveland Browns news of Monday morning and team owner Jimmy Haslam's brief meeting with reporters. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See https://pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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0:00.0

Good morning and welcome back to Zach Jackson and friends.

0:26.5

It is the morning. It's Monday morning. I am back in Cleveland. I am actually just down the road from the Browns facility at a Chick-fil-A where I came to podcast with you guys.

0:36.3

I don't know if this is going to be six

0:37.5

minutes, eight minutes, ten minutes. I wanted to do quick thoughts on the expected news of

0:43.0

Kevin Stefanski getting the axe from the Browns. We've heard from Jimmy Haslam. We're still

0:48.7

about two hours from hearing from Andrew Barry, who was going to remain in his position. There had been reporting that he was going to stay.

0:57.6

It's never made sense to me.

0:59.4

It's never made sense to most of you guys who are smart enough to listen.

1:04.1

I am not right all the time.

1:05.8

I think we went over this a couple of weeks ago.

1:07.5

I'm just right most of the time.

1:09.3

Nobody's right all the time and this is a

1:10.8

very, very hard business. It's really hard for the Browns to justify what's gone on and say

1:19.6

that Stefansky was part of the problem and that this current front office could be part of

1:23.8

the solution. There's very little evidence of that. We just heard from Jimmy Haslam talking about the situation.

1:32.8

I would term that as an absolutely bonkers press conference.

1:37.7

It's some of the things that he said.

1:40.3

And look, this is about the future, guys, right?

1:43.3

The Browns made the decision. Kevin Stefansky didn't win enough.

1:46.6

Kevin Stefansky would tell you himself that he didn't win enough.

1:50.2

And this is about, you know, this is very much about 2002 to yesterday, but this is about the future.

1:56.8

And the Brown's trying to shed this and move forward and make commitments to the right

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