The upper 20% of the CIA does not believe in democracy.

They believe in the perpetuation in the power of the CIA.

We are talking a monster here with multiple tentacles.

You had said I make a distinction between the shadow government and the deep state.

Could you explain the difference between those two?

The shadow government I consider is the CIA. It manipulates Congress. It manipulates the judiciary

and the White House. The deep state is this multi-billion dollar monster like the Department

of State designed to influence congressional and senator to representatives influence

their reelection. You've got this entire huge monster that's got to be dismantled.

The biggest and most important effort in U.S. history.

Let's say you got a phone call from Mar-a-Lago, and they said,

Kevin, we need you down here to brief the president.

What would you tell him?

Be very careful with the CIA. They're going

to have to clean the upper levels of the CIA first and put people that are in line with the

change in the reform that the CIA desperately needs. What makes you think Trump can pull it off?

He cannot be controlled by them. That's why they've been trying so hard to stop him and remove him.

Are you worried about

his safety? Yes, and Bobby Kennedy, too. Based on the history of what I've seen in the CIA,

they will try to get rid of them because the CIA knows it could be their demise, so they're under

serious threat. Congratulations on the book. It's called Twilight of the Shadow Government,

how transparency will kill the deep state. I was a bestseller on Amazon sold out, but that's not why the book. It's called Twilight of the Shadow Government, How Transparency Will Kill the Deep

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