Kevin Roose: Futureproof Yourself Against The Robot Apocalyspe

The Rich Roll Podcast

Rich Roll

Health & Fitness, Education, Self-improvement, Society & Culture

4.8 • 12.9K Ratings

🗓️ 15 March 2021

⏱️ 98 minutes

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Summary

Artificial Intelligence isn’t an imagined future. It’s right here, right now. So what are the perils of society’s rapid pivot to automation? How do we avoid displacement and dehumanization? And, most pressing, how do we find meaning in a world driven by algorithms? These are important questions we need to be asking. Today’s guest is the right guy to help answer them—one of my very favorite online follows for his insights on automation, online radicalization, cybersecurity, and digital wellness. A bestselling author and award-winning technology columnist for The New York Times, Kevin Roose specializes in technology and its effects on society—an interest that culminated in the mind-melting, must-listen podcast series Rabbit Hole, a story that exposes the many ways the internet influences our beliefs and behavior, often for the worse. A significant portion of today’s conversation focuses on artificial intelligence and the many ways in which our increasingly automated world impacts humanity. It’s also the subject of Kevin’s latest book, Futureproof: 9 Rules for Humans in the Age of Automation. Part A.I. primer part self-help survival guide, it breaks down the tools we need to be happy, successful humans in a world increasingly built by and for machines. As we usher in the age of artificial intelligence, more and more occupations are becoming automated. Social media algorithms not only frack our attention spans for clicks, but they have so thoroughly manipulated such that we now divest much of our decision-making and critical thinking skills (the things that literally makes us who we are) to technology. This is an important, potentially life-altering breakdown of the many ways the internet and AI-based algorithms are degrading us, locking us into information silos, inciting emotion for profit, and threatening our inherent humanity. It’s also a guide on surviving workplace automation, overcoming phone addiction, and protecting your time and attention. In addition, Kevin provides his insider take on a variety of other notable technology curiosities from Clubhouse to NFTs, the future of podcasting, and many other subjects that I know will pique your interest. FULL BLOG & SHOW NOTES: bit.ly/richroll587 YouTube: bit.ly/kevinroose587 Our most powerful trait is our innate humanness. My hope is that this exchange will serve as a reminder. Peace + Plants, Rich Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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0:00.0	You know, in order to survive this wave of AI and automation, we need to become more
0:05.0	human.
0:06.0	And we're starting to see that the skills that are actually in demand right now are these
0:10.6	kind of what we would pejoratively call soft skills.
0:14.1	It's things like communication and empathy and leadership and courage, and the things that
0:19.5	machines can't do.
0:21.1	The hard part about that is there are forces that are conspiring to make us less human.
0:25.4	And we interact with them every day.
0:26.8	You know, these are very powerful machines.
0:29.3	Every time you look at your phone, you are looking at a device on which hundreds of billions
0:34.3	of dollars have been spent to make you distracted from whatever else you might have been thinking
0:39.6	about.
0:40.6	And so I think we tell ourselves that we need to be plugged in, but actually I think in
0:45.3	the present and in the future, there will be a real value to being able to separate yourself
0:51.0	from your phone and your feeds and your technology, because that's how we get better.
0:56.5	I mean, everything in life that makes us better, very little of it happens through the phone.
1:01.7	It happens, you know, through taking on personal challenges, through struggling, through raising
1:06.8	families, through, you know, building communities.
1:09.3	Like, that's the stuff that is really hard and really rewarding.
1:13.1	That's Kevin Rousse.
1:14.7	And this is the Rich Roll Podcast.
1:30.5	Hey everybody, welcome to the podcast.
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