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Kevin O'Leary: Sports Cards Are Beating My Crypto, S&P, and Private Equity

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4.7698 Ratings

🗓️ 7 May 2026

⏱️ 22 minutes

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Summary

Kevin O'Leary, chairman of O'Leary Ventures, joins CoinDesk Live at Consensus 2026 in Miami wearing a one-of-a-kind Tiffany necklace built around a $12.93M Kobe-Jordan card he says is outperforming his crypto, S&P, and private equity returns. Plus, why he cut his crypto positions from 27 to 3, his energy land deals in Alberta and Utah, and why "nobody cares" about most crypto chains. - Timecodes: 00:00 Kevin O'Leary Joins CoinDesk Live at Consensus 2026 00:24 The Tiffany Necklace and the $12.93M Kobe-Jordan Card 02:14 Why 90% of Returns Come From "Piece Uniques" 04:38 Tokenization, the NFT Debacle, and Stocks 06:43 The Real Investment Theme at Consensus: Energy 08:55 Why BTC and Ethereum Are 97% of the Crypto Trade 09:50 The Hunt for the Chain That Wins the S&P 500 14:04 AI, S&P Earnings, and the DeepSeek Wake-Up Call 17:25 The Rolex Ruby and the F.P. Journe Resonance 20:30 Why Consensus Is "Where the Puck Is Going"

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0:00.0

Kevin O'Leary has a blunt message for crypto investors.

0:11.0

Most tokens won't survive, but Bitcoin, Ethereum, infrastructure, and tokenized real-world assets

0:16.0

may define the next investable phase.

0:18.0

Joining us now is chairman of O'Leary Ventures.

0:21.9

Kevin O'Leary, hello.

0:22.7

Great to be here. Thank you. Yeah, great to have you here. We've got to talk about the bling before we get to anything. I mean, you brought one in your collectibles. I'm not going to steal your thunder. Tell me what's around your neck, and we'll try and get a close-up of it. Well, this whole thing started on the red carpet at the Oscars where I wore one of our cards.

0:40.8

I've been... your neck and we'll try and get a close-up of it. Well, this whole thing started on the red carpet

0:37.5

at the Oscars where I wore one of our cards. I've been getting into the alternative asset

0:43.0

classes and about four years ago, Michael Ruman, the CEO of Fanatics said to me, he was a guest shark

0:50.3

and we were just sitting around backstage. He said, have you ever thought about investing

0:54.5

in collectible sports cards? I said, no, are there a piece of cardboard? Why would I do that?

0:59.9

That's crazy. He said, you really should start thinking about it because you should start thinking

1:04.7

about it as contemporary or modern art. And it's going to have the same capital appreciation

1:10.3

as a Warhol did in the

1:12.3

60s or Picasso did in the 50s. I didn't buy into it. He was right. I was wrong. And so I started

1:20.0

my journey in with a syndicate of other investors last August where we paid $12.93 million

1:26.0

for a Kobe Jordan, dual auto man.

1:31.0

We just got off for 21 million for it.

1:33.5

That's since August. It hasn't even been a year.

1:35.6

So that's better than I've done in crypto, better than I've done the S&P, better than I've done in private equity.

1:40.6

And it's liquid. I could sell it right now.

1:43.2

And so I would argue to you this is no different than building a portfolio of modern art.

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