All right. Hello everyone welcome to Conversations That Matter. We have a special episode today with two special guests. We have Neil Mammon, the executive vice president of every Black Life Matters as well as Kevin McGarry, who was the president of that organization.

And Kevin was on a few weeks ago, and we talked a little bit about the election and his

organization, but they have a new initiative called Remnant Rising and I really wanted all of you guys to know about it and here's the reason

Number one these guys are brave and there's not a lot of people right now who are brave enough to take on the Black Lives Matter movements message etc and then the second thing is they're unique because they're actually doing something about it. They want to go around the country. They want to

talk to churches about liberation theology and critical race theory and the dangers of these things

and present the biblical alternative. So I'm going to hand the floor over to them and welcome guys

thank you so much for coming on. Wow thank you John really appreciate the

opportunity to re-engage with you of course you and I were on a couple weeks ago and I have the

privilege of having Neil Mamman, who's our co-founder here with me today. And Eel is really a intellectual,

and when it comes to critical race theory

and some of the other topics that we discuss

in our remnant rising workshops.

But I just wanted to commend you. I've been really

following you for a little bit now and I just want to thank you for having the the gumptionumption the fortitude to be on Front Street with combating

and challenging some of these folks in our church, you know, like Keller and Piper and some of the others that you've done at Spousais on.

So it's a real honor for Neil and I to be here with you to really further explore how we can bring the church along

with understanding the dangers, the demonic dangers of CRT, liberation theology, social justice gospel. These things are corrosive,

divisive, and dangerous to our, they're anti-goscal.

And we need to expose it.

So Neil and I have been working on this initiative

that's specific to the body of Christ.

And we're excited to be here to talk to you about it.

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