Welcome to the Eric Mataxis show.

They say it takes a big man to admit he's wrong, but I say it takes an even bigger

man to admit he's never wrong.

Ladies and gentlemen, I present to you that bigger man, Eric Mataxas.

Folks, welcome.

This is the beginning of the show.

At the beginning of the show, typically I blather on about something.

But we had a debate last night.

And I thought, wouldn't it be better if I let someone else blather an expert, someone

like Kevin McCullough, who has been dubbed by Chris

Heimes as Votesradamus. The man knows all, tells all with regard to electoral politics. It's a stunning

thing. Could we get him? Yes, we could. Here he is. Kevin McCullough, welcome. Hello, Eric. Good to see

you. Good to talk to you. Let me tell you, I have almost nothing to say about last night's debate. It was one of those things where I thought, is it just me? I mean, actually, no, I'll tell you. My one takeaway from last night is that Mike Pence is masterful. The idea that he was able to contain himself and to respond in this measured

way, no matter what Kamala Harris said, I thought that is seriously amazing to me in these

passionate times in which we live. And I was in awe of his self-control. So that's all I'll say.

What do you say? Well, you know, he is a born-again Christian. He carries his faith very seriously.

And I think that he represents that faith very well when he does things in public. And I thought last night was just an example of that.

But there were a couple of things I was looking for, and I wanted to see if they were going to

happen. And it took about 15 seconds into the debate for them to come true. One was I wanted to see

how long it would take for the coronation to begin. And about 20 minutes into the debate, you already had

CNN and MSNBC saying that Kamala was killing it

and she was masterfully in control of the evening and so forth. And the other thing I wanted to see was

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