My last name is actually pronounced ligands.

Ooh.

Jordan.

It is.

For real.

Yeah.

Like my part of the family, we're the only part that says Liggins.

Everyone else says Ligons.

Welcome to Spinster's, a podcast where we are Twin Flames.

Today we have Sophia Benoit.

Yeah, that's right.

She's French.

She wrote a book called Well, This Is Exhausting.

I personally loved this book.

And I subscribed to her newsletter called Here's the Thing.

There is so much great advice in there.

And she is extremely thoughtful, thoughtful funny but also the advice

feels very real um like she's lived a million lives and so yeah i think you're really going to

enjoy her today we're doing the kevin love line so thank you for sending us in your uh relationship scenarios we are right there with you

and also sophia is a sex columnist for bustle and gq magazine before we get into it i have to say

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