Kevin Franke: Manipulated Victim or Willing Bystander? The Psychology Behind ‘Devil in the Family’ | 2025 True Crime
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Tony Brueski
4.2 • 612 Ratings
🗓️ 4 January 2026
⏱️ 30 minutes
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Summary
The episode begins with the psychology of Kevin’s denial. How does a spouse convince themselves that extreme parenting is “discipline” rather than danger? Shavaun Scott breaks down the mechanisms of thought-reform, coercive influence, and the slow erosion of intuition. And then the most haunting question of all: what makes a father step away from his own children for an entire year because an outside “guru” told him to?
But the story doesn’t end with the collapse of the Franke family. Kevin recently announced his engagement, just six months after finalizing his divorce from Ruby — who is now serving a possible 30-year prison sentence for aggravated child abuse. The public reaction has been split: is this healing, deflection, or strategic rebranding?
Tony and Shavaun examine the psychology of rapid re-partnering after trauma, the desire to rewrite personal identity, and the fine line between moving forward and bypassing accountability. We also explore Kevin’s recent support of Utah’s new “child influencer” law — a step toward protecting children exploited in monetized online content. His testimony was powerful, but does it reconcile the years he stood behind a camera while harmful parenting was broadcast to millions?
This episode asks the hardest questions:
Was Kevin controlled — or complicit?
Is he rebuilding — or rebranding?
And what does accountability look like for the children who had no choice?
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| 0:00.0 | This is Hidden Killers Year in Review. |
| 0:02.7 | A look back at the biggest stories of 2025. |
| 0:07.0 | This is Hidden Killers with Tony Brewski. |
| 0:11.1 | You thought your family dynamics were complicated. |
| 0:16.6 | If you know anything about the Frankie family, you may be thankful for what your dynamics are. |
| 0:23.0 | We're going to be diving in here into one of the most twisted true crime cases in recent years. |
| 0:29.8 | Devil in the Family, a new documentary on Hulu peeling back the layers of the Ruby Frankie case, |
| 0:35.4 | exposing how extreme parenting, blind faith, and a little too |
| 0:38.2 | much YouTube, fame created the perfect storm for abuse to thrive. The most fascinating and |
| 0:45.1 | frustrating figure in this case, his name's Kevin Frankie. He's the husband and he's the dad |
| 0:49.7 | of those six kids. The father who claimed he was shocked by everything that happened while also admitting, |
| 0:59.3 | he let a controlling therapist and his wife run his life like a cult. |
| 1:04.0 | So was he a victim of psychological manipulation, or was he an enabler who found it easier to play along than to question what |
| 1:13.2 | was happening? And most importantly, how does someone get so lost in a belief system that they |
| 1:18.6 | abandon their own children to suffering? To help us make sense of all of this, psychotherapist |
| 1:25.6 | Chavon Scott joining us, Chavon, with someone this deeply embedded |
| 1:31.0 | in a belief system like Kevin Frankie was. I know it's a broad question, but how do they rationalize |
| 1:37.2 | this sort of behavior and things that seem so obviously harmful to anyone on the outside? |
| 1:45.3 | Yeah, from the beginning, my term, |
| 1:47.8 | since I first heard about this case, |
| 1:49.3 | was pathological passivity for Kevin, |
| 1:52.7 | that even before Jody Hildebrand came into their lives, |
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