I'm Alan Alder and this is Clear In vivid conversations about connecting and communicating.

You just need to take me out of it.

When you take me out of it, the concept of it is, it's really an important and beautiful

concept and that is that we are all connected and we see this now so much during this pandemic,

right?

What you'd go out and do in your life affects other people and that's the connections.

So I didn't know really anything about philanthropy or about what it would be.

All I did was went out and with a friend because I didn't even know how to do this.

We got the website 6Degrees.org, you know, I just purchased it for a couple thousand bucks

or something and that was just the beginning of it.

That's Kevin Bacon who even enjoyed as an actor in dozens of movies and just being in all

those movies made him the subject of a game called the 6 Degrees of Kevin Bacon.

If you had acted in a movie with someone who had acted with someone who had acted with

him, you were that many degrees of separation from Kevin Bacon and other actors who were

actors would be asked, what's your bacon number?

I was interested that Kevin was able to take this game of trivia and turn it into a philanthropy

to help make the world a better place.

This is really great to talk with you because first of all, you're such a busy guy.

I don't know how you made time for this.

I make time because I love you and you work and I wanted to talk to you.

So there's always time for that.

That's great.

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