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You don't destroy 250 years of secular democracy without gutting precedent, shattering norms,

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school system. So they're pushing vouchers everywhere. They're arguing for religious public schools.

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environmental disaster, the sour stench of chaos in the air. I'm Brooke Gladstone, host of WNYCs on

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Mr. Chief Justice, may it please support.

It's an old joke, but when I argue, men argues against two beautiful ladies like this, they're going to have the last word.

She spoke, not elegantly, but with unmistakable clarity.

She said, I ask no favor for my sex. All I ask of our brethren is that they take their feet

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I'm your host for today, Leo Litman. After we recorded today's episode, Donald the Dove, the peacemaker, announced on true

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