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We Need To Talk with Paul C. Brunson

Kerry Katona: I’ve Not Told Anyone This… What Really Happened During The Show

We Need To Talk with Paul C. Brunson

FlightStory

Relationships, Society & Culture, Leisure

4.71.2K Ratings

🗓️ 7 April 2026

⏱️ 99 minutes

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Summary

Kerry Katona returns to We Need To Talk with Paolo, opening up about finding love when she least expected it, the anxiety she was battling, and the heartbreak that ran alongside her happiest moments. She speaks candidly about her relationship with Paolo, from meeting up after the cameras stopped rolling to blending their families and talking seriously about marriage. Kerry and Paolo also reflect on falling pregnant early in their relationship, the miscarriages they went through together, and what that loss brought up for them both. Kerry also speaks honestly about going on tour with Katie Price, why everyone told her not to do it, and the 20-year friendship that still connects them despite how different they are. She reflects on the emotional toll of sharing so much on stage, the health scare that left her in hospital, and why her children’s approval means more to her than anything else. Kerry Katona, We Need To Talk (again) This episode contains discussion of miscarriage. We’ve included links to support charities below: Sands: https://linkly.link/2fej3 Tommy’s: https://linkly.link/2feiZ  Follow me here: https://www.instagram.com/needtotalk   https://www.tiktok.com/@weneedtotalkpod   Sign up to our newsletter https://linkly.link/2eXHX Follow Kerry & Paolo here: https://www.instagram.com/kerrykatona7   https://www.tiktok.com/@official.kerrykatona https://www.instagram.com/paolomargaglione1/  https://www.tiktok.com/@margafitness_  Abba Mia Tour: https://www.d3productions.co.uk/abba-mia (00:00) Intro (00:58) Kerry is Back! (02:32) The Impact of Kerry’s First Appearance on We Need To Talk (11:49) Kerry’s Mindset Going into Appearing on Celebs Go Dating (15:52) What Was It About Paolo That First Appealed to Kerry? (17:18) How Kerry and Paolo’s Relationship Developed (20:26) How Did Kerry and Paolo Deal With the Age Gap? (22:26) Kerry’s Struggle With Anxiety Over The Past Year (25:52) Kerry’s Health Scare (27:51) The Emotional Impact of Kerry’s Tour with Katie Price (31:57) Kerry and Paolo’s Interdependent Relationship (35:24) Would Kerry Tour With Katie Price Again? (37:07) The History of Kerry and Katie’s Friendship (42:52) Kerry’s On Parasocial Relationships (48:20) Paul Surprises Kerry With A Letter From Home (54:42) Shopify Ad (55:46) Paolo Joins Paul and Kerry (01:00:09) What Has the Media’s Reception Been Like About Their Relationship? (01:04:34) Paul Shows Kerry and Paolo a Family Photo (01:06:32) How Do Kerry and Paolo Manage Their Blended Family? (01:08:43) How Does Paolo Deal With the Parasocial Relationship Fans Have With Kerry? (01:13:41) Kerry and Paolo Address ‘That Photo’ With Katie Price in Dubai (01:14:57) Are Kerry and Paolo Moving to Spain? (01:17:27) What Does Paolo Love About Kerry? (01:21:21) Will Kerry and Paolo Get Married? (01:24:00) Do Kerry and Paolo Want to Have Children Together? (01:30:43) Most Memorable Conversation (01:34:03) Paul’s Takeaways Sponsored by: Shopify: www.shopify.co.uk/needtotalk  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Transcript

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