Welcome, welcome, welcome. This is the distraction pieces podcast episode 465 and I'm joined this week by an absolute legend.

Kerry Goddellamann. I'm a big fan of Kerry. Kerry's in an amazing new show called The Undeclared War.

On Channel 4 you can catch up on all four. But I'm a big fan of her in general. She's wonderful in this but her career has been amazing and she's been in so many of my favorite shows.

But our paths have never crossed despite having a lot of mutual friends. Our paths haven't crossed at all. So I was delighted to get to sit down and have a bit of a chat with Kerry.

And she's as lovely as you expect. Good and spoiler alert. She's exactly as delightful as you would expect it to be. So yeah, this is a really good, great chat.

I'm going to get straight into it. It's bought to you as ever by speechdevelopmentreckles.com where you can get all that good merch. Patreon.com forward slash ScruviestPip is where you can support the podcast and Twitch.tv forward slash ScruviestPipio is where you can catch up on all my nonsense, including TPI Fridays.

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I had a panic then because they had moved the recording button. And there's been a zoom update and I suddenly thought, oh my God, I've not looked at it and I'm right in the middle of it all.

I just think I'd like to, what's the opposite of an update, a down date, a back date. A back date, exactly that. I'd much prefer that. I got offered an upgrade on my phone the other day and I was like, no, can I just go back to the old knock here if anything.

And the annoying thing is I know that if I just go with it, it'll take me a week to get used to it and it's fine, but I resist so much. I know I know I all works on this one.

Yeah, absolutely.

It'll be normal again. Where are we all going? Where's the end of this journey towards relentless upgrading?

Yeah, exactly. Well, I'm joined today by Kerry Godlimin. Updates aside, how are you? Let's have an update. How are you? How's everything going? I'm all right. I'm all right. I'm good today. I'm really glad because we haven't built in work done. So I know when we were arranging this, I was worried about banging.

Are you having your house updated?

Yeah, having a little alley turned into a side room that I don't really know what we'll do with, but it won't be an alley. So, yeah, today is lovely.

I did that with an alley at mine recently, and I thought I'm going to hang like I'm just going to do it as a kind of a free standing thing and I'm going to hang like a heavy bag in this.

I can do a bit of boxing and I didn't realize that it was I can literally do jabs and that's about it. And my news who does a lot of trading came around is like, yeah, you can jab, but you can't really do any moving around.

I think more extra is like this. It's really is relentless desire to expand and you're like, but to wear for what? I can't do anything with this.

That was exactly it, but is it all going smoothly? I know building work can be bloody stressful.

No, it's fine. It's fine. Yeah, no champagne problem. I appreciate you taking the time and putting this chat in then.

Before we get into everything, I always do like a whole life and career thing and your most recent project and all that, but how was Glasto?

Oh, you went glass to bring it. I'm still feeling a bit fuzzy. I love.

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