Kernel's Bryan Johnson: "Measuring the mind and reengineering society"

The Times Tech Podcast

Will Morley

Business, Unknown, Technology

4.9 • 654 Ratings

🗓️ 11 February 2022

⏱️ 54 minutes

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The Sunday Times’ tech correspondent Danny Fortson brings on Bryan Johnson, founder of Kernel, to talk about creating a new brain-measuring device (4:20), why he did it (7:10), launching a new layer of brain data in society (10:00), bringing the product to market (14:30), taking inspiration from Sir Ernest Shackleton (18:10), selling the Kernel Flow for smartphone price (20:40), creating new markets (24:30), funding it himself (28:00), measuring willpower (30:30), his startup as a reaction to Big Tech (35:3), choosing a Shackleton-type voyage over retiring to a farm (39:40), and Danny's brain results (43:10).

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0:00.0	Yo! Technology! What is it all about?
0:04.0	We're going to put on the helmet.
0:06.0	Okay.
0:07.0	How's this feel?
0:11.0	It feels good.
0:12.0	I mean, I wouldn't go on a job with it.
0:15.0	Probably shouldn't.
0:16.0	Yeah.
0:17.0	It's, uh...
0:19.0	Yeah, it does it. It feels good. Feels good? Yeah. Bal's, uh, it's... Yeah, it does say it feels good.
0:21.6	Yeah.
0:22.6	Balanced?
0:23.6	Yep.
0:24.6	All right, I'm going to start off the lights.
0:25.6	We've got to tune some lasers.
0:27.6	Okay.
0:28.6	Okay. Hello and welcome to Danny in the Valley.
0:45.2	This week, guys, I made myself a guinea pig.
0:50.0	And it involved putting a futuristic-looking helmet on my head to image my brain activity in real time.
0:59.8	Now, the company that developed this invention is called Kernel, which was founded by Brian Johnson.
1:06.1	And Johnson sold his company Brain Tree, which owned Venmo, to PayPal back in 2013 for about $800 million.
1:15.3	And so he was suddenly wildly wealthy, trying to figure out what to do with the rest of his life.
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