All right, real quick, before we get back to the Lions, um, Kenny, I'd like to welcome you in and, and all I've told Kenny is, guys, he needs to calm down. But Kenny's upset on a multitude of fronts. So, this is risky. But I just want to hand Kenny, it's carte blanche. But wings lose last night in Jersey, no Jack Hughes.

You know, I got bomb by the islanders.

You got a point against Columbus and won a game in OT.

Okay, so Kenny just did his hand gesture again.

But you're upset about something else.

So please, just no cuss words.

Well, it starts with the losing, right?

It starts with the fact that everybody was telling me, oh, this team's top of the Atlantic.

I feel like they pulled the okedoke on you, where they had you believing maybe they could be a good, you know, top of the division contender type team when from the very beginning, what did I tell you, Mike?

I told you to pump the brakes a little

bit. Let's wait until at least the deadline or until they get close, see what this team actually is.

My issue is, up until now, we haven't seen anybody like you saw Lucas Raymond get cheap shot at,

if you want to call it that. Nobody stood up for him, whether you believe it was intentional or not.

Nobody's standing up for the stars. And I know you don't think Lucas Raymond is a star. That's not what I'm one to debate here. But like if Dylan Larkin goes down last year, it happened or the year before that, it happened. Nobody seemed to rush to his defense. So if you want to play a low event hockey and and that's your strategy to win, I guess cool,

but at least be tough enough to stand up for your teammate. defense. So if you want to play a low event hockey and that's your strategy to win, I guess

cool, but at least be tough enough to stand up for your teammates. And it seems like this

team is lacking specifically that. All right, but okay, now there's a lot to unpack there.

Yes, I don't think anyone's going to mistake the wings for being bullies or being a,

you know, they're not a Florida Panthers style team. But Kenny, here's the two things I have to juxtapose. They're 13 and nine. I understand they're in second place, but they're also like two points for being out of the playoffs. The East is jumbled. It's early. They're at the quarter polls. Is that fair? A little over the quarter pole. If you told me that they were out of the playoffs by New Year's, I wouldn't look at you sideways

because of how packed and compact this division is. Yeah, no, that's absolutely fair.

I think the thing that would bother me more is just they had the hot start, they mostly soiled it,

then they bounced back again. Now are they going, look, is it fair to say the wings are just going to be a streaky team and the youth is a part of that? I think that's exactly. I think that's the core reason behind why they're streaky is because when the young guys look good, they're going to look very good. And when they look bad, they're going to look like, you know, rookie players bad. And that's fine, by the way. There's room for them to develop and turn into the superstar players that we're hoping they do. But right now, they are not that. And you take the good with the bad. I guess my question becomes, are the Red Wings good or bad? And I don't think we have an answer. I think we're about where we were last year. Here's what I think. I don't

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