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The Gist

Kenneth Vogel on the "Sh*tbag Business"

The Gist

Peach Fish Productions

Daily News, News

4.53.7K Ratings

🗓️ 23 January 2026

⏱️ 48 minutes

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Summary

Today on The Gist, Mike explains why he won't be watching Netflix's Skyscraper Live, arguing that Alex Honnold's latest stunt is an "attractive nuisance" that plays on our darkest voyeuristic instincts rather than the Olympic ideal. Then, New York Times reporter Kenneth Vogel joins the show to discuss his book Devil's Advocates. He breaks down the "sh*tbag business" of foreign lobbying, covering Paul Manafort's pioneering work with dictators, Rudy Giuliani's "security consulting" hustle, and the very real legal exposure facing Hunter Biden.  Produced by Corey Wara Coordinated by Lya Yanne Video and Social Media by Geoff Craig Do you have questions or comments, or just want to say hello? Email us at ⁠⁠⁠⁠thegist@mikepesca.com For full Pesca content and updates, check out our website at https://www.mikepesca.com/⁠ For ad-free content or to become a Pesca Plus subscriber, check out ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://subscribe.mikepesca.com/ For Mike's daily takes on Substack, subscribe to The Gist List https://mikepesca.substack.com/ Follow us on Social Media:⁠⁠⁠⁠ YouTube https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC4_bh0wHgk2YfpKf4rg40_g⁠⁠⁠⁠ Instagram https://www.instagram.com/pescagist/ X https://x.com/pescami TikTok https://www.tiktok.com/@pescagist To advertise on the show, contact ⁠⁠⁠⁠ad-sales@libsyn.com⁠⁠⁠⁠ or visit ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://advertising.libsyn.com/TheGist

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0:00.0

It's Friday, January 23rd, 2026.

0:06.3

From Peach Fish Productions, it's the gist.

0:08.4

I'm Mike Peska.

0:09.7

I'll tell you what I won't be watching this Friday night.

0:12.4

Skyscraper Live is the Netflix special in which Alex Honnold,

0:16.3

a free climber, will attempt to climb the 10th largest building in the world in Taipei, and then

0:22.5

afterwards, tell me if he's done.

0:24.9

Sorry that I even have to care or no.

0:27.3

Tell me that he's alive, and then I'll try to erase it from the list of things I worried

0:32.1

about.

0:32.9

I can't stop a base jumper or a free climber from doing the things they do, but you would think

0:39.7

liability laws in Taipei might intercede and say, ah, if this goes wrong, not only is it not on

0:46.0

us, since in our courtyard, it will literally be on us, we're not going to do this. I really hate

0:52.1

this stuff, and there is a downside.

0:54.6

There was another story that I read that a base jumper recently skied off a 500-foot

1:00.0

granite cliff outside Lake Tahoe successfully, quote unquote, except I'm reading about it.

1:07.2

Others are reading about it.

1:08.4

And this is an attractive nuisance.

1:17.6

Or in the case of, say, the Golden Gate Bridge, which I bring up for a reason, a lethal beauty. This was the, I think, seven-part series in the San Francisco Chronicle, which chronicled all the suicides,

1:24.6

all the people who have looked at that bridge and said, oh, it would be so easy

1:29.1

and perhaps so poetic to end it this way. And the difference between a purposeful suicide

1:34.5

mission and a suicide mission by percentages or degrees or with a 10 second delay isn't as big

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