Kenneth Chan: Is democracy lost in Hong Kong?
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BBC
4.3 • 537 Ratings
🗓️ 20 January 2021
⏱️ 24 minutes
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Summary
The Chinese government began this year by intensifying its crackdown on the pro-democracy opposition in Hong Kong. Amid mass arrests, the surveillance of the media and academia is there any safe space left for those fighting for Hong Kong’s political autonomy? Stephen Sackur speaks to long-time activist in Hong Kong’s pro-democracy movement, Kenneth Chan. Is the fight for freedom in Hong Kong lost?
(Photo: Keneth Chan appears via video link on Hardtalk)
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome to Hard Talk on the BBC World Service with me, Stephen Sacker. |
| 0:04.7 | My guest today is a professor of politics whose own activism and commitment to democratic reform |
| 0:11.1 | threatens to make him a case study in the dangers of political dissent. |
| 0:17.6 | Kenneth Chan has long fought for democratic reform in Hong Kong, which was returned to |
| 0:23.2 | Chinese rule in 1997, based on a commitment from Beijing that its legal and political systems |
| 0:29.8 | would be respected. The so-called one-country two systems principle. Right now, that principle seems redundant. Last year, Beijing imposed a new |
| 0:41.4 | national security law on the territory, which is being used to neutralise pro-democracy |
| 0:47.1 | political opposition. At the beginning of this year, more than 50 opposition activists were |
| 0:52.5 | arrested under suspicion of subversion. |
| 0:56.2 | Legislative elections were postponed last year, and if they take place, this year, |
| 1:02.0 | Beijing seems intent on musseling meaningful opposition. So what are the options for pro-democracy |
| 1:09.3 | campaigners like Kenneth Chan? Well, he joins me now on the line |
| 1:14.3 | from Hong Kong. Welcome to Hard Talk. Thank you very much. Pleasure to be here. |
| 1:19.5 | Professor Chan, right now in Hong Kong, is it possible to operate as a pro-democracy political activist? |
| 1:29.2 | It is increasingly difficult because of the introduction of the national security law |
| 1:34.3 | and the arbitrary implementation of the law that we have seen so far. |
| 1:39.5 | So a lot of people are very concerned. |
| 1:41.6 | I would say we are increasingly succumbed to a feeling of |
| 1:45.2 | helplessness and pervasive fear as well. So it's become harder for me, for example, to reach |
| 1:50.9 | to talk freely with people. I attended a small discussion just a couple of evenings ago with a |
| 1:57.7 | small group of local activists. We had to put away our phones. We were very concerned |
| 2:03.7 | about the meeting itself, although there was nothing really special that we would like to talk |
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