Anytime something happens that feels like it's beyond our control. The knee-jerk is we need more government, as if government is going to solve things. Government naturally doesn't do that. It's the opposite. It's just layers and layers of suffocating bureaucracy that collapses under the weight of its own good intentions.

Hey, hey, and welcome. This is the Ben Shapiro Show Sunday special. I'm really excited to

welcome to the program today, American political commentator radio personality, and the host of

Kennedy at 9 p.m. on the Fox Business Network, Kennedy. Thanks so much for stopping by.

Ben, it is so nice to be here.

Well, I'm really excited that we're in New York and we can actually get together. This is great. Yes, and you brought the New York vibe, so well done. Oh, perfect. Okay, so it's dingy and horrifying. Okay, perfect. So for folks who don't actually know your background,

so you have a really interesting background

because, you know, I was political from a very young age,

but you were, So for folks who don't actually know your background, so you have a really interesting background

because I was political from a very young age, but you were a music person, right?

You were a VJ on MTV.

So how did you get into that in the first place?

The things that I loved most in high school were music and politics.

And I didn't graduate from high school.

I didn't get a diploma.

So my parents didn't want me to just linger in Portland.

So they gave me money.

They paid me to leave.

And I moved to Los Angeles to get into political consulting,

because that's naturally where people go.

And I ended up getting an internship at a radio station,

a really great radio station, KROQ. And my boss there, Andy Shone, I used to go into his office

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