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Subscribe now at Bloomberg.com. Thank you. Welcome to this episode of Kennedy saves the world,

and we have to save the world from the next pandemic.

How do we do that?

Well, we weren't really expecting this one.

We weren't prepared for it. So are we prepared

for something that may come with a great degree of certainty? According to the former head of the

NIH, Francis Collins, the answer is no. So what do we learn? How do we get here? And what on earth can we do going forward so we never

have to live through something this horrible and confining again? Joining me now, Dr. Robert Redfield.

He's the former CDC director. You've seen him on the news talking about this with a great deal of clarity and an honest

amount of hindsight he's also a world famous virologist and has worked in the same sphere as

Dr. Anthony Fauci for a long time. Dr. Redfield, welcome to Kennedy Saves the World.

Thanks. Thanks for having me, Kennedy. So what are you doing now since you've left the CDC?

Well, when I first left, I served Governor Hogan as a senior public health advisor for the state of Maryland,

and I did that until he completed his term. I did it as a gift to the

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