Kennedy and Khrushchev: 1. Opening moves
The Bomb
BBC
4.4 • 2K Ratings
🗓️ 1 December 2025
⏱️ 38 minutes
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Summary
As the USA and Soviet Union race for supremacy in the 1960s, Premier Khrushchev sizes up his rival, President John F Kennedy. Hosts Max Kennedy and Nina Khrushcheva, relatives of the superpower leaders, explore their rise to power - one wealthy, smooth-talking and Harvard educated, the other a hardened Soviet war leader from a peasant family. As they prepare to meet for the first and only time as world leaders, the stakes couldn't be higher: they are fierce rivals in the race to build ever more devastating missiles. This is the personal and political history of the Cuban Missile Crisis.
Nina Khrushcheva is the great-granddaughter of Nikita Khrushchev and Max Kennedy is the nephew of President John F Kennedy, and the son of Robert F Kennedy.
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| 0:00.0 | BBC Sounds, music, radio, podcasts. |
| 0:05.5 | If you can't wait for new episodes of this podcast and you're in the UK, more episodes are available now. |
| 0:12.4 | First on BBC Sounds. |
| 0:19.2 | Moscow's Keesky railway station. |
| 0:21.6 | A crowd of thousand wave, as Premier Nikita Khrushchev leaves on board a dark green steam train. |
| 0:29.6 | He's heading for Vienna. It's a journey of more than a thousand miles. |
| 0:35.6 | In Kiev, his arms are filled with flowers. |
| 0:42.3 | In a sunny Prague, more clapping crowds. |
| 0:46.3 | As his train passes through the countryside of the communist world, |
| 0:51.3 | he is waved on enthusiastically. |
| 1:04.2 | President John F. Kennedy soaks in a large gold-plated bath. |
| 1:08.3 | He's staying in the King's Chamber, in the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, |
| 1:11.3 | a 19th century palace overlooking the river Seine. |
| 1:16.3 | The deep steaming waters are easing his back pain, which is worse than ever. |
| 1:20.8 | He's been touring Paris all day in an open-topped French limousine. |
| 1:23.9 | Huge crowds lined the streets waving to him, |
| 1:27.9 | everyone wanting to catch a glimpse of the young and handsome President Kennedy and his elegant and sophisticated wife, Jackie. It's the 31st of May, 1961. In just three days, |
| 1:36.3 | the world will be watching as he meets Nikita Khrushchev in Vienna. |
| 1:43.2 | Khrushchev has heard reports of the huge crowds in Paris. |
| 1:47.5 | The White House claims that a million people have lined the streets to catch sight of the American president. |
| 1:55.9 | This is the Cold War, a time of great mutual suspicion. |
| 2:03.7 | The Vienna meeting will be the first and only time that Kennedy and Khrushchev meet as world leaders, the youthful and charming American president |
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