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docu-series. That's right. By the way, it's Kenne and Casey's show. I'm Rob Casey's here. I have now

watched it. You did. I did in part because we have a fabulous guest with us who knows that case

very well. He is all over that documentary. And he is the former police superintendent for the

state of Indiana. Doug Carter joins us now. Doug, hello. Hey, good morning to you. So have you seen

the documentary? I did. I watched it over the weekend. Is it weird to watch a documentary on a case

that you basically knew from start to finish. Like I think if somebody did a documentary

our radio show or our radio program, like what is that like to see a documentary? I'm sure you

you just pick things apart the whole time. Well, it was difficult, quite frankly, it was difficult,

Rob. It was, it took me back in time almost nine years

ago, at least in February. That's what it'll be. Do you remember all the stuff well? Or is it,

were things jogging your memory? Oh, absolutely jogging my memory. There was so much to it. There

were just so much from the very beginning. I had captivated, literally captivated the planet.

I mean, there were inquiries from all over the world.

So it was, it was quite an experience.

All right.

So I think one of the problems with the Delphi case is that we didn't get to see what went on in the courtroom.

And so we were limited to the descriptions of the people who were there,

a very select amount of media.

Do you think that was a major issue?

And do you think if there had been cameras in the courtroom,

people would have felt differently about the trial?

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