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So our president and more importantly, our governor, have a serious problem with not just listening, but they're totally disconnected from where people are in this country right now.

I thought about this all week.

And by the, it's Kennell and Casey show.

I'm Rob.

That's Casey.

And obviously the huge news that came out on Friday. This is fascinating. So I was set to do an interview with a writer for CNN. He was doing

a story on redistricting. And we'd already set up the interview and I was supposed to talk to him at

four o'clock. And he calls at four o'clock and he goes, well, I guess the story all just changed.

It's very fluid.

And I talked to this guy for about, I don't know, maybe 10, 15 minutes.

And he was just, you know, he said, look, follow you on Twitter.

No, you've got an interesting perspective on this.

You're very conservative.

And yet you have this view that is totally at odds with, you know, with the governor and

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