Welcome to the Eric Metaxis show with your host, Eric Mettaxas.

Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Albin, is this live? Am I talking? Can people hear me? Can people see me?

All right, folks. I guess I got to come clean. Today, my friend Ken Fish is my guest. You know,

it's going to get crazy. That's a good thing. Ken Fish, my friend, welcome. Thanks. Great to be back

with you again.

I was desperate to get you on here as soon as possible because you and I were just in Kansas

City with our spouses or wives, depending on where you're from.

And we experienced things that I can't process easily. Like it was so wonderful.

Mike Bickle is the head of Kansas City Fellowship, IHOP, International House of Prayer, whatever they're

calling it. I'd never met him before. He's kind of a legend. I'd heard about him. What an astonishing

human being. What a wonderful person. I'd never,

you know, until you meet somebody, you just don't know what you're going to find. But just

delightful in every way. And his wife and so many of the folks we met there. I was there because

of you. So tell my audience, I haven't said anything, this is the opening segment today, what happened?

Wow. Well, let's see. Six of us came together. So Mike, of course, was leading it. And just to clarify the nomenclature, he founded his church nearly 40 years ago under the banner of Kansas City Fellowship, it later became a vineyard

church. So at the time it became Kansas City Vineyard. These days, it's known as IHOP-KC,

International House of Prayer of Kansas City. So Mike was called us all together. You were there,

of course. So Eric Mataxis, Francis Chan, who probably should not

need any introduction, but he's one of the leading thinkers in the evangelical world. Andy Bird,

who's one of the rising stars within Youth with a Mission, which is a global missions organization.

By the way, youth with a mission together with what was once Campus Crusade for Christ,

but these days is known as crew, CRU, those two together field nearly 20% of the missionaries

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