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Hey there, folks.

Before we get to our guest, we had a minute here.

I wanted to kind of give an update on my Revolution book.

It's interesting.

I was recently, I don't know if you, if you Keith or you, Chris, Heim's ever listened to Joe Rogan.

I never, ever, ever listen to Joe Rogan.

Do you guys, I don't listen to any podcasts?

I do.

I really love a lot of the guests he has on.

Well, I'm not against Joe Rogan.

I just don't listen to, to podcasts typically, but.

It's a big investment. Well, yeah, one thing I don't seem to have his typically, but um, big investment.

One thing I don't seem to have his time because I'm working on my book about the

revolution, especially, right? So every spare second, you know, I'm working on the book.

But the other day, our friend Seth Ward said to me, Joe Rogan interviewed Ken Burns.

Now, Ken Burns, most people know he's the big PBS

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