Neal Brennan interviews Ken Burns (Leonardo Da Vinci on PBS plus The Civil War, The War, Jazz, Baseball and many more documentaries) about the things that make him feel lonely, isolated, and like something's wrong - and how he is persevering despite these blocks. ---------------------------------------------------------- 00:00 Intro 1:00 What qualifies for a Ken Burns documentary 2:16 Leonardo da Vinci 5:17 Self-parody 8:22 Why he decided to work on da Vinci 12:00 The Last Dance 16:50 da Vinci’s possible homosexuality 19:55 Ken Burns on Ken Burns 29:12 Sponsor: Verso 31:06 Sponsor: BetterHelp 32:43 Temper 38:12 Zen of the Brooklyn Bridge 39:49 Spirituality 44:53 Being Kind 53:44 Sponsor: Mando 56:10 Sponsor: Uncommon Goods 57:45 Trying not to make the others wrong 1:01:50 Covering Wars & Difficult Subjects ---------------------------------------------------------- Watch 'Leonardo da Vinci' on PBS: https://www.pbs.org/kenburns/leonardo-da-vinci/ Follow Neal Brennan: https://www.instagram.com/nealbrennan https://twitter.com/nealbrennan https://www.tiktok.com/@mrnealbrennan Watch Neal Brennan: Crazy Good on Netflix: https://www.netflix.com/title/81728557 Watch Neal Brennan: Blocks on Netflix: https://www.netflix.com/title/81036234 Theme music by Electric Guest (unreleased). Edited by Will Hagle (wthagle@gmail.com)  Sponsors: Visit https://www.ver.so promo code: NEAL to save 15% on your first order. Visit https://www.bettterhelp.com/NEAL for 10% off your first month. Control Body Odor ANYWHERE with @shop.mando and get $5 off off your Starter Pack (that’s over 40% off) with promo code [NEAL] at Mandopodcast.com/NEAL #mandopod Visit https://www.uncommongoods.com/BLOCKS for 15% off your next gift. Sponsor Blocks: https://public.liveread.io/media-kit/blocks ---------------------------------------------------------- #podcast #comedy #mentalhealth #standup Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices