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Ken Burns and the American Revolution

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History, Documentary, Society & Culture

4.616.4K Ratings

🗓️ 15 January 2026

⏱️ 51 minutes

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Ramtin talks with filmmaker Ken Burns about the revolution that made the U.S., and the surprising lessons he thinks it holds for us today.

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Ken Burns, documentary filmmaker.

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0:00.0

The Novelizers podcast, where we turn classic films like The Matrix and Dirty Dancing into hilarious audiobooks narrated by guests like Rachel Dratch, Ira Glass, Samantha B, Will Forte, Wayne Brady, J.K. Simmons, and more.

0:13.3

Listen to The Novelizers podcast, hosted by me, Dave Hill, from Cincinnati Public Radio and the NPR Network.

0:27.6

Thank you. from Cincinnati Public Radio and the NPR Network. No one expects that a bunch of country farmers with muskets are going to hold off a trained army who have orders from an actual general in Boston.

0:36.2

There's a real disbelief that a bunch of rag-tag colonists

0:39.3

are going to manage to hold their own against trained soldiers.

0:43.5

Stacey Schiff, the American Revolution was a bloody civil war that lasted for eight years.

1:03.3

It was a time of great division and turmoil in the country that would eventually lead

1:08.6

to the establishment of our democracy. In other words,

1:12.1

we came out the other side. But that was then. It's become one party defeating the other.

1:20.3

The current presidential administration seems a hellbent on dividing, not only socially,

1:27.1

but even economically. People that don't like Trump will say he's very divis socially, but even economically.

1:28.2

People that don't like Trump will say he's very divisive, but those are the same people

1:31.8

that say that Biden was great.

1:33.3

Americans are anti-institutional now.

1:35.7

And if you look at data and trust in institutions, we don't trust anything today as much

1:40.2

as we trusted it 40 years ago, whether it be banks or unions or the media or religion.

1:44.5

Whenever I speak my values, I fear that something bad may happen.

1:49.6

Instances of political violence also include attacks on local politicians,

1:53.8

members of Congress and their spouses, and political disagreements that turn deadly.

1:57.7

This tension sits on top of pressures more and more people are already feeling,

2:02.4

the increasing cost of living, housing shortages,

2:05.7

and the erosion of shared spaces where people used to meet across political lines.

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