Ken Burns and Sarah Botstein on 'The U.S. and the Holocaust'

Larry Wilmore: Black on the Air

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🗓️ 11 September 2022

⏱️ 53 minutes

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Larry is joined by award-winning filmmakers Ken Burns and Sarah Botstein to discuss their new PBS docuseries 'The U.S. and the Holocaust', premiering Sept. 18. They begin their conversation by detailing the United States government's inadequacies in their response to the Nazi's persecution of the Jews during WWII. Next, they offer a brief history of xenophobia in American society leading up to the events in the film(7:10) and talk about how the number of casualties and the sentimentality of certain portrayals of the war like 'The Diary of a Young Girl' by Anne Frank may have been different if America would have reacted more quickly.(19:06) After the break they dive into Charles Lindbergh's anti-semitism and how it drastically contradicted his celebrated public persona, while also shining a light on some of the lesser known heroes of the Holocaust. (29:35) They end the pod by collectively pondering how humanity is capable of committing atrocities like the Holocaust and debate if the current political climate in the U.S. is heading towards a similar atmosphere.(40:09) Host: Larry Wilmore Guests: Ken Burns and Sarah Botstein Associate Producer: Chris Sutton Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	Hey, it's Bill Simmons. I have some good news for you. The hottest take. It's back.
0:05.0	Oh yeah. Monday through Thursday, four times a week, you heard from me. Chris Ryan, Sean
0:09.4	Fantasy, Malloruban, Wazdy and Lambray, Van Leith and June Lippman. Many other
0:13.5	ringer staffers, you get one take, you got an defendant to the death. Sports takes.
0:17.3	Pop culture takes. Food takes. Airplane takes. Oh yeah. It's coming back.
0:22.1	First episode drops August 29th. All right, welcome back. Everybody, this is Larry
0:37.0	Wilmore. You're listening to Black in the air. Of course, I hope it wasn't an accident.
0:41.5	I hope you didn't do enough for us. And hoping everybody had a good summer. This is,
0:46.8	you know, past Labor Day. We're officially in the fall season here. And man, we got a
0:50.8	lot of great shows coming up. I'm so excited. We got the election season here. There's
0:55.5	just a lot of stuff happening, you know, and, you know, we're hoping we're cobbled
1:00.7	behind us. I know monkey pox is trying to chase us, but, you know, let's look in the
1:05.2	rear view. It's been those things as possible. We got to go forward, you guys. But in the
1:12.0	meantime, we've got an amazing show today. And I'm very excited to have these guests
1:17.8	and premiering on PBS in September, 18th, the US and the Holocaust is examines the US
1:25.6	inadequate response to Germany's persecution of the Jews and WWII. A story that we thought
1:31.3	we knew. But in the able hands of Kim Burns, Sarah Batsin and Lynn Novak, it is an amazing
1:38.9	documentary. So please welcome back in there. Kim Burns and Sarah Batsin, welcome to
1:42.8	Black in the area, you guys. Thank you so much. Thanks for having us. It's such a pleasure
1:46.8	to have you guys and show them. Welcome back. And congratulations, first of all. And I
1:52.2	don't even know if I have the right descriptors. I'm speechless during so much of this. So
1:57.6	congratulations on job well done. Thank you. I don't I've said this a million times.
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