After selling 16 million copies of the number one New York Times best-selling book,

The One Minute Manager. Ken Blanchard was asked to speak and teach his proven management systems

to some of America's largest companies, including Nordstrom, American Express,

Xerox, IBM, and other leading companies. And then Ken made a poor life choice.

He decided to join me on the Thrive Time Show podcast.

Some shows don't need a celebrity to write her to introduce the show,

but this show dies. Two men. Eight kids co-created by two different women.

13 multi-million dollar businesses. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the Thrive Time Show.

Yes, yes, yes, and yes. Thrive Nation on today's show we are having an incredible special guest

by the name of Ken Blanchard. But before we get started today, Dr. Z, I have a question for you.

Sure. Is it not true that you own one of the most successful optometry clinics in Oklahoma?

Absolutely. Is it not true that I own a chain of men's grooming lounges?

That's true. Is it not true that you own an auto auction?

The largest in the state. Is it not true that I used to own a massive

wedding entertainment company called DJConnection.com?

That's the order of the street. Is it not true between the two of us at last count,

we have built 13 businesses that have done that do consistently more than a million

dollars of gross revenue? That is correct. Okay, so would it not be true that the hardest thing

for most business owners to learn is to how to manage people. People ask us all the time.

They pull you aside and they say, Z, I want to pick your brain. How do you manage people?

How do you manage people? And people ask me, how do you manage people?

Yeah. And both of us are always saying, well, you got Jack Welch's book,

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