Hey listeners I'm sharing something special this week.

It's an episode of the podcast What It's Like to Be

from New York Times Best Selling business book author Dan Heath.

In every episode, Dan interviews someone from a different profession, a cattle rancher,

an FBI special agent a professional Santa Claus.

He asks, what's it like to do what they do?

What does a couples therapist think when a friend asks for relationship advice?

Is a Secret Service agent supposed to pretend like they're not there when they're around the president.

What does a hairstylist do when a client asks for a celebrity hairstyle that will never work for them?

If you've ever met someone whose work you were curious about and you had a hundred nosy questions

but were too polite to ask, this is the show for you.

In the preview you're about to hear, Dan talks to an Ocean Lifeguard about performing CPR on a dolphin, learning to read the ocean,

and leading daring and sometimes foolish rescues.

Okay, here comes the preview. You can find more episodes of what it's like to be

wherever you get podcasts. Ed Vadraska has been an ocean lifeguard for 47 years.

He's semi retired now and has spent his career lifeguarding and training other lifeguards.

In Southern California where he spent most of his career,

being a lifeguard comes with high stakes.

Maybe at least once a summer,

you make a rescue where you absolutely positively know that person was going to drown.

And you're facing them and you see the fear of God and their eyes in the water and you strap

him in that buoy and you try to calm him down and say, listen, I'm here, you're going to be okay, I'm going you're going to be okay I'm going to get you

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