I'm Natalie Moore. I fell in love with soap operas when I was just five years old, and I still

watch them. Their television's longest scripted series and have zero reruns. Now let me tell you,

soap operas aren't just some silly art form. They are significant. In this season of making,

Stories Without End from WB EZ Chicago.

Join me as I share how the genre began, their social impact, and why these stories endure.

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From WBEZ Chicago, this is Nerdette. I'm Greta Johnson. We did it. We made it to another weekend.

Coming up, The Magical Kelly Link is going to tell us about her deeply strange and sweet new novel, The Book of Love. I don't think of this book is a romance, but I do think of it as a love letter to romance.

But first, let's sit back and relax with two excellent humans with us this week is Naila Boodoo.

She's the host and editor of the Axios podcast, One Big Thing.

Naila, welcome back.

Always a pleasure to be here.

Also, here is the subject to the upcoming documentary, Your Fat Friend and co-host of Maintenance

Faze, Aubrey, G Gordon. Aubrey, hello.

Thank you so much for having me back. Okay, so I want to talk about an article that came out this

week from The Cut. I thought this one was so interesting. The headline is the return grift is over,

and it's all about how it's getting harder and harder to buy a bunch of stuff online and then return it.

There's an example in the story of someone who ordered like $200 worth of stuff from

urban outfitters and ended up returning most of it and then like tried to buy something

from them a couple months later and found out that she was banned from shopping there.

The story mentions a number of different brands including ASOS and SACS and SIFRA.

It turns out most of them don't have like a super clear policy about, you know, the point to which

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